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No. 2 - What is it?

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I'm relatively new to fine cigars. I've been smoking off an on for several years, but recently joined Cigar Dave's monthly club. I received this month a H Upmann Sun Grown and loved them! The only thing, I'm not sure about the style. It's a pyramid shape, so I'm guessing it's a No.2, but I can't seem to find a picture to verify. I can't even find the term "No. 2" in any literature. I'm guessing it's more of a trade name than an actual description.

Anyway, I love it, and I want to order more, but I want to be sure I'm ordering the right thing. No retailers seem to have pictures, perhaps because it's so new?
 
I would say it is the typical trade name for that shape by H. Upmann. Here is a link to the Altadis web site about the Sun Grown. Now, you are welcome to stay around and learn more from our community, but it is highly reccomended that you go and introduce yourself in the proper section.
 
Thank you, I have posted in the new arrivals section.

Regarding the No.2 designation, is this a standard descriptor, or can this designation vary and cover different shapes? I see Montecristo calls their pyramid a No.2, but Romeo Y Julieta uses the No.2 for for a Corona? How can one identify a particular style without seeing the original first? In my case, I received the sampler from the Cigar of the Month club, but there was no indication of the style, just the brand and model.
 
MilesMingusMonk said:
No. 2 (vitola) is a pirámides (factory name) 6 1/8 " (length) x 52 ( ring gauge)
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This is the most common reference but beware.

A Bolivar Tubos No.2 is a very good petite corona.
 
That's what I was seeing with the Romeo Y Julieta "No 2." designation....they were describing a Corona.

This cigar stuff is confusing. ;)
 
Don't you mean 'Who is it?':

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It looks like they are calling it a No 2..and calling it a Belicoso.
 
It looks like the ruke of thumb is :

If it's not a Tubo, it's pyramid/torpedo.
 
vortex said:
It looks like the ruke of thumb is :

If it's not a Tubo, it's pyramid/torpedo.
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Really?

Here's something I came across:

linky

Belicoso is in the shape of a pyramid and usually has a cigar ring gauge of about 50 and a length of 5 to 5 3/4 inches.

Perfecto has been making a comeback. These cigars are tapered on both ends, which gives them a bulge in the middle. These can be any size.

Pyramid has a small head (the end you cut) and a much wider foot (the end you light). This cigar flares outward dramatically and can be any size. A common size for one of these may be considered starting as a 42 cigar ring gauge at the head and ending in a 54 gauge at the foot. the length would be 6 1/2 to 7 1/2 inches long.

Torpedo is my personal favorite. In the past, the traditional Torpedo cigar had both ends closed at a point. Most current versions have a pointed head with a straight body.

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From what I recall the SP beli is shorter than a No 2.

I'll try to take a picture of them lined up, if I have a SPB left.

As for the No 2...that could just be a naming convention used by the manufacturer for a line...then again, we need someone with a Tobacconist University to be certain!

Heck, we didn't even talk about the Salomon or American vs other country markets when it comes to naming!
 
grateful1 said:
vortex said:
It looks like the ruke of thumb is :

If it's not a Tubo, it's pyramid/torpedo.
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Really?

Here's something I came across:

linky

Belicoso is in the shape of a pyramid and usually has a cigar ring gauge of about 50 and a length of 5 to 5 3/4 inches.

Perfecto has been making a comeback. These cigars are tapered on both ends, which gives them a bulge in the middle. These can be any size.

Pyramid has a small head (the end you cut) and a much wider foot (the end you light). This cigar flares outward dramatically and can be any size. A common size for one of these may be considered starting as a 42 cigar ring gauge at the head and ending in a 54 gauge at the foot. the length would be 6 1/2 to 7 1/2 inches long.

Torpedo is my personal favorite. In the past, the traditional Torpedo cigar had both ends closed at a point. Most current versions have a pointed head with a straight body.

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From what I recall the SP beli is shorter than a No 2.

I'll try to take a picture of them lined up, if I have a SPB left.

As for the No 2...that could just be a naming convention used by the manufacturer for a line...then again, we need someone with a Tobacconist University to be certain!

Heck, we didn't even talk about the Salomon or American vs other country markets when it comes to naming!
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We are assuming it is a convention. The question is what shape/type of cigar is a #2.

Have you(or anyone) seen an exception to my Premise of No.2?
"If it's a Tubo, it's a PC. If not a Tubo, it is a pyramid/torp"
 
PSP2 Tubo

There's also the Tat. No 2 ...to not pigeon hole this into a cuban cigar discussion.
...and I think the Davidoff No 2 is a larger tubo...non PC and Non-torp(shape).
...and the Hoyo (Epi) No 2 is a larger ring gauge.

The point...No. 2 is a manufacturer/brand naming convention.

Where it really comes from, we may have to do a histroical search on all the No 2's.

Did I miss the point?


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When going to buy this H Upmman SG...it is a No 2. linky
I believe some shops may have them listed as a Torp/Beli/Piramide as well.
 
I've fallen into the Boli craze. Had a Royal Corona with coffee this morning and felt like I melted into my chair. So good!
 
Kingantz said:
vortex said:
A Bolivar Tubos No.2 is a very good petite corona.
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Very VERY good! Bolis!! :D
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The best of the Boli PCs, IMO.

Gary, the point/question was what does #2 mean. We both agreed it is a naming convention.

I think(not sure) we disagreed on how that convention is defined. I don't doubt there are exceptions; but, I see the convention as if the name of the brand is followed by a #2 it is a long pointy cigar. If it is a Tubo(or as you pointed out Epicure) then it is just labeling them Epicure #1, Epicure #2 ... or Tubo #1, Tubo #2 ...

So an Upmann #2, Monte #2, Tat #2, etc is a long pointy cigar.
 
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