Well I have just tried one of these. I got one from, a nice CP member . Well the outside wrapper was a torn near the foot. Well I think it was the foot. The shape was a little odd. I couldn't figure out which end to light. Ohh well. Anyway, the cigar was nice and firm, the draw was easy but not loose, the 1st 1/4 of the smoke was grassy/bitter. I decided to put the smoke down for about 5 minutes to see if it would mellow. The smoke did mellow nicely after that. The main problem I had was the outer wrapper started to come off, which was bothersome. The flavor of the last 3/4 of the cigar was kinda plain, with no real distinguishing characteristics at all, I think if the cigar was aged some, say 6 months to a year then maybe it will improve, I hope the other cigars of this group did not have the same problem I did with the outer wrapper coming off.