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Fools errand: mid-90s Jose Gener conspiracy quest

kevbevcraft

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This is a call to smokers who appreciated cigars in the mid-90s
Starting with google, this was the AI response:
According to information available, the "CigarPass" forum is widely considered the longest-surviving and most active online cigar forum, with a large community discussing cigars and related topics for many years, including discussions about aging and long-lasting cigars.​
...so I joined for this post.

In the mid-90s, to get through college, I worked at a tobacco shop in the mall. Those of you of my vintage know what I'm talking about: Indoor mall shoppe with figurines on lit glass shelves up front, sweet pipe tobacco filling the air and humidor in the back.
Myself already 10-years familiar with cigarettes and my dad's pipe, it was my intro to cigars and I experimented heartily (before the interwebs) and stopped with a cigar that just had a plain brown Jose Gener label. I had no idea who he was until decades later!

Searching vintage cigar band images came up empty. But I see now that the time I was introduced was a boom period... I'm afraid they were just a "season special" for the times.

After being fired from the job (not for pilfering or stealing: if you actually read this far, I would enjoy adding a lot of my personal experience with political/military conspiracy to the thread from that time period, but I need the eyes/ears of smokers older than me who are actually reading the post - so you have to ask),

I 've had a couple cigars since then, but never anything like those Jose Gener plain band...

So decades later and I'm dabbling in cigars again.
This is what I understand about cigar composition:
Wrappers - we all know​
Binders - the cosmetically-lesser versions of wrappers​
Fillers: Ligero, Viso, Seco, and Volad​

Recognizing there have been a LOT of changes in 30 years (the most of which are probably my own sense of taste), there has to be a way to connect the dots to the best recent incarnation of that cigar.
What was the blend that Jose did for those cigars that I enjoyed 30 years ago as an inexperienced smoker?
Anyone?
 
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I believe they were made by Villazon who made Punch, Hoyo, JR Ultimate, El Rey del Mundo and the famous (or infamous) Consuegra, which were seconds of the formentioned. Jose Gener were on the Hoyo de Monterrey's. Villazon was sold maybe 15 years ago and the factory was moved. The cigars they made are still sold, but they "ain't" the same.
 
Frank Llaneza passed away, unfortunately, and Villazon is no more. There’s no real successor to what he was doing back then. Villazon cigars are what got me hooked as well. Time to experiment with what’s around now and find your new favorite!
 
JR Ults are still one of the best cigar lines out there. The best may be the Principale in Oscuro. I also like the Cabinet series. The Principale's are often on sale. 5 packs under $20.
 
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