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Cuba Habana Trinidad Cigars found... Fidel Castro's?

I have beach front property with a view of the India Ocean for sale in Arizona. Its very rare and the oldest property with a view of the India Ocean in the United States.

Ok sarcasm off. You wasted your money. First of all you are asking about something you bought for a friend as a gift. Now he feeds you a hell of a story which
you seem to have believed and now trying to verify if the story he fed you is true. Read my opening two sentences.You've been sucked and those cigars isn't even
worth enough to wipe my ass with. :laugh:
 
Nice humi...bad cigars.

The cigars a Trinidad Fundidores and are not good anymore...looks like dried up banana peels at this point....unsmokable.

The 'Fundis' are currently available to consumers.

aether said:
Well, I didn't exactly pay a lot for them, so I wouldn't say I got ripped off.

But, his story really checks out. If you go in Wikipedia there is an entire section about these:
http://en.wikipedia....8cigar_brand%29

So my question is, it's easy for you to say "wow this look like shit and you got ripped off", but I'm not looking for a half-assed opinion, I'm looking for facts. Do you know the date of these cigars? Are they old Trinidads like the ones written about?
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With out a 'box code' (date on the bottom of the original box) you won't be able to tell when they are from.

I'll have to look and see if the 98's I have contain a band....if not then your's are possibly newer.

But at this point it doesn't matter...the cigars are worthless.

Nice humi though.

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This is the part you have to look at:
Though Martínez and others maintain that the blend did not change in the transition from a diplomatic gift to a mass-marketed cigar, the size did. The diplomatic Trinidads only came in one size, that of a Laguito No. 1 (the same as the Cohiba Lancero). The Fundador instead comes in a new size with a factory name of Laguito Especial, the same length as a Laguito No. 1 but with a ring gauge of 40 instead of 38.

The only problem is, they are so dry that determining the ring gauge will be near futile...althought the band may help with that.

Most likely they are not Laguito No 1.
 
According to THIS the Laguito No. 1 was handed out as low-level diplomatic gifts. They are 7.6inches by a 38 ring guage but I'm not sure if they all had pigtail heads like shown in the picture. Your pictures don't indicate the same. If they were a gift to your buddy, then I'm sure he will enjoy them. I'm not sure how smokeable they are by the pictures, only way to tell would be to have your buddy light one up and see.
 
grateful1 said:
Nice humi...bad cigars.

The cigars a Trinidad Fundidores and are not good anymore...looks like dried up banana peels at this point....unsmokable.

The 'Fundis' are currently available to consumers.

aether said:
Well, I didn't exactly pay a lot for them, so I wouldn't say I got ripped off.

But, his story really checks out. If you go in Wikipedia there is an entire section about these:
http://en.wikipedia....8cigar_brand%29

So my question is, it's easy for you to say "wow this look like shit and you got ripped off", but I'm not looking for a half-assed opinion, I'm looking for facts. Do you know the date of these cigars? Are they old Trinidads like the ones written about?
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With out a 'box code' (date on the bottom of the original box) you won't be able to tell when they are from.

I'll have to look and see if the 98's I have contain a band....if not then your's are possibly newer.

But at this point it doesn't matter...the cigars are worthless.

Nice humi though.

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edit to add
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This is the part you have to look at:
Though Martínez and others maintain that the blend did not change in the transition from a diplomatic gift to a mass-marketed cigar, the size did. The diplomatic Trinidads only came in one size, that of a Laguito No. 1 (the same as the Cohiba Lancero). The Fundador instead comes in a new size with a factory name of Laguito Especial, the same length as a Laguito No. 1 but with a ring gauge of 40 instead of 38.

The only problem is, they are so dry that determining the ring gauge will be near futile...althought the band may help with that.

Most likely they are not Laguito No 1.
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Don't forget this little piece of information.

"Two sources have contradicted Lara's claims: President Fidel Castro himself and the afore-mentioned Mr. Martínez. In an interview with Cigar Aficionado, when asked about Trinidads, Castro stated that he only gave Cohibas away as diplomatic gifts, and in his autobiography; my life, he claims to know very little of the Trinidad brand. In the Illustrated Encyclopedia, Martínez stated that Trinidads were actually a lower-level diplomatic gift than Cohiba cigars, made with a tobacco blend similar to that used in the Cohiba vitolas, but without the third barrel fermentation that Cohibas receive."
 
aether said:
Well, I didn't exactly pay a lot for them, so I wouldn't say I got ripped off.

But, his story really checks out. If you go in Wikipedia there is an entire section about these... so really how can you open your mouth and say jibberish when the facts are there. It seems to me either you know something I don't, or you're trying to give a half-assed opinion which I really don't need or want.

http://en.wikipedia....8cigar_brand%29

Yes, we can say they look like shit, they're probably dried out, and from a smoking standpoint they probably are buriable. But I hate to tell you, I have a bottle of wine from 1775 that is probably vinegar, but its still worth $300,000... I have a painting that is from 1913, that I bought for $50, but at an auction it would fetch 2 million. So on those lines, let's stick with the facts... it's easy for you to say "wow this look like shit and you got ripped off and I wouldn't smoke those", but I'm not looking for a half-assed opinion, I'm looking for facts.

Do you know the date of these cigars? Are they old Trinidads like the ones written about that came from Castro's exclusive collection? Does anybody know anything about the label on these?
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You came hear asking for our views as you don't know a lot about the item...and then 'hate to tell' us...

Since you seem to know things already...enjoy your sale of these fine cigars!

By the way, the 1775 bottle is sealed, that's probably what folks are paying for - and the painting 'MAY" bring $2 million at an auction.
( A recent work I know of was suppose to bring $500k...the high bid was just under $100k....go figure!)
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Well, they do look like they have been sitting for decades as your edited post used to say. One of your assumptions seems to be that the cigars are from 1969. They were produced from 1969-1997, as stated and seemingly ignored earlier, without the original box and corresponding box code, ????? Measure the band, it's the only part of those cigars that will still accurately reflect the original ring gauge.


You're new here, but we don't delete posts, even when they are embarrassing.
 
Now I wonder how many other cigar forums he has posted on with this crap. Since I am only a member of CP, I can't say. Its sad I don't even know
what the other forums are named.
 
Mr Peat said:
Now I wonder how many other cigar forums he has posted on with this crap. Since I am only a member of CP, I can't say. Its sad I don't even know
what the other forums are named.
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I haven't seen him pop up anywhere else...yet.
 
What the hell does "fafa" mean and how do you guys keep making meaningful responses to this strange, arcane code language?

It must be some secret society talk as the only people I know with $300,000 bottles of vinegar and million dollar paintings are in the local Rotary Club and we all know how closely they guard their secret meetings and rituals.

I'm calling Dan Brown, dammit...
 
This is what a 98 Fundadore looks like compared to a 97 Diplomat. I hope this picture works LOL



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aether said:
Well, I didn't exactly pay a lot for them, so I wouldn't say I got ripped off.

But, his story really checks out. If you go in Wikipedia there is an entire section about these... so really how can you open your mouth and say jibberish when the facts are there. It seems to me either you know something I don't, or you're trying to give a half-assed opinion which I really don't need or want.

http://en.wikipedia....8cigar_brand%29

Yes, we can say they look like shit, they're probably dried out, and from a smoking standpoint they probably are buriable. But I hate to tell you, I have a bottle of wine from 1775 that is probably vinegar, but its still worth $300,000... I have a painting that is from 1913, that I bought for $50, but at an auction it would fetch 2 million. So on those lines, let's stick with the facts... it's easy for you to say "wow this look like shit and you got ripped off and I wouldn't smoke those", but I'm not looking for a half-assed opinion, I'm looking for facts.

Do you know the date of these cigars? Are they old Trinidads like the ones written about that came from Castro's exclusive collection? Does anybody know anything about the label on these?
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Sounds like you're way too "high-class" for us plebeians. Besides, a half-assed opinion is better than smart-assed opinions!
 
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