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Consuegra & Old Fashioned Cross Reference

SkyKing

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As Connie smokers know, Consuegra smokes are true seconds. That is, they are made by unidentified name-brand, premium, hand rolled cigar makers. Seconds are those sticks which fail to meet the makers standards - often the problem is cosmetic. Sometimes but not often, the smokes don't make the grade for functional reasons. Finally, productions overuns account for some bundles. These are perfect but unlabeled, full flavored Honduran cigars like Punch and Hoyo de Monterrey.

The first lists attempts to unveil the manufacturer of the Consuegra by keying in on the model number and the size. For example, if you like Punch, Hoya de Monterrey, or Rothschild, try the number 9s, a popular smoke on this forum.

Based on this list, I've ordered a bundle of #18s. I have no idea how accurate it really is but I plan to compare the #18 with the Punch After Dinner and find out. Will let you know. Maybe others here can provide comparative reports of the Connies versus the associated name cigars.

Sorry but I don't know the author(s) of the following lists. The Connie version posted here appears to have been floating around the Internet for a while. I didn't find it here on CP but it is possible I missed it when searching. Hope it isn't redundant. I'm also including a similar list for Old Fashions. (Not sure if that I will be able to smoke one after viewing the South Park episode featuring shake weights and Old Fashions)

How about some of you FOGS? Do these lists reflect reality?

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No. Size
#1 6 ½ x 42 Ultimates Cetro, Punch Oxford Deluxe
#2 4 ¹/5 x 28 Ultimates Habanella, Punch Slim Panatella
#3 5 ½ x 43 BF Corona, Hoya de Monterrey Tubo, Belinda Spanish Twist
#5 5 ½ x 37 Ultimates Petit Cetro, El Rey Del Mundo Tino, Excalibur VI
#8 5 ½ x 28 El Rey Del Mundo Elegantes
#9 4 ½ x 50 Punch / Hoya de Monterrey / Ultimates Rothschild
#10 5 x 41 Punch London club, Hoya de Monterrey Sabrosos
#14 7 ¼ x 54 Bolivar Fuertes 754, Ultimates 1, Ultimates Cab 60, El Rey Del Mundo Robusto Suprema, Hoya de Monterrey Sultans, Punch Chateau L
#15 6 ¼ x 54 Excalibur II, Hoya de Monterrey Churchill
#16 6 x 48 Punch Pita
#17 5 ½ x 47 Hoya de Monterrey Café Royale, Punch Grand Cru Superior
#18 7 ¼ x 46 Belinda 1835, Punch After Dinner
#25 6 ¾ x 48 Flor De A. Allones Prominente, Bolivar Fuertes / Ultimates / Hoya de Monterrey / Punch Double Corona, Excalibur Banquet, Punch Grand Cru Monarcha
#26 5 ½ x 42 ?
#28 8 ½ x 52 Ultimates / Hoya de Monterrey / Punch Presidente, Excalibur Emperor, El Rey Del Mundo Coronation, Punch Grand Cru Prince Consort
#29 6 x 41 ?
#30 5 ¼ x 50 Ultimates Cab 20, Excalibur Epicure, Punch Corona Gorda Deluxe, Punch Grand Cru Robusto
#68 5 x 37 Flor De A. Allones Especiale 5, Bolivar Fuertes Palmita, El Rey Del Mundo Reynita
#70 5 ½ x 44 El Rey Del Mundo Corona, Hoya de Monterrey Super Hoyo, Punch Café Royales, Punch Royal Coronation
#72 5 x 54 Bolivar Fuertes 554, Ultimates Cab 40, El Rey Del Mundo Robusto Zavalla, El Rey Del Mundo Robusto
#73 6 x 54 Flor De A. Allones Regordo, Bolivar Fuertes 654, Ultimates Cab 50, El Rey Del Mundo Reserva Salado
#73M 6 x 54 Ultimates Principale, El Rey Del Mundo Robusto Larga
#84T 6 x 54 El Rey Del Mundo Flor de Llaneza, Punch Grand Cru No. 2
#84B 6 x 50 Flor De A. Allones / Ultimates, Bolivar Fuertes Belicoso
#108 6 ½ x 46 Ultimates Cab 10

Old Fashioned

Size
#1 6 ⅛ x 50 Punch/Hoyo Seconds
#2 6 ¾ x 48 Punch/Hoyo Seconds
#3 4 ½ x 50 Punch/Hoyo Seconds
#4 5 ¾ x 45 Punch/Hoyo Seconds
#5 6 ½ x 43 Punch/Hoyo Seconds
#6 5 ½ x 38 Punch/Hoyo Seconds
#7 7 ¾ x 54 Punch/Hoyo Seconds
#8 6 ½ x 54 Punch/Hoyo Seconds
Chico 4 ⅛ x 32 Cameroon - Partagas Purito Seconds
Chico 4 ⅛ x 32 Natural/Cafe - Macanudo Ascot Seconds
#31 6 ¾ x 43 Partagas #1
#32 5 ¾ x 43 Partagas #2
#33 5 ¼ x 43 Partagas #3
#34 5 x 38 Partagas #4
#36 6 x 34 Partagas #6
#38 6 ¼ x 47 Partagas Almirante Seconds
#40 7 ½ x 49 Partagas #10
#41 5 ½ x 49 Partagas Naturales Seconds
#42 4 ½ x 49 Partagas Robusto
#46 7 x 52 ?
#50 4 ⅛ x 32 ?
#004 5 x 38 Macanudo Robust Petit Corona
#005 5 ½ x 42 Macanudo Robust Duke of Devon
#007 6 ½ x 42 Macanudo Robust Baron Rothchild
#250 6 x 31 Macanudo Claybourne
#350 7 x 34 Macanudo Portofino
#400 5 x 38 Macanudo Petite Corona Seconds
#500 5 ½ x 42 Macanudo Duke Of Devon
#550 5 x 50 Macanudo Hyde Park
#555 5 ½ x 49 Macanudo Robust Hyde Park
#600 ?
#700 6 ½ x 42 Macanudo Baron De Rothschild
#745 7 x 45 Macanudo Sovereign
#749 7 ½ x 49 Macanudo Prince Philip
#850 8 x 52 Macanudo Prince of Wales
#947 7 ½ x 49 ?
 
The Connie list is on various web sites (and I believe different versions are floating around as well - didn't compare) These particular lists were posted on a Puff forum.

I was conflicted when posting the info. On the one hand, I believe strongly in attribution. On the other hand, I believe including links to other forums might be counter to this boards netiquette? I saw some posts unfavorable to links in signatures. Since at least one of the lists were available at multiple sites, I decided to post sans attribution.
 
I don't know about others but personaly I have had the #9, #17 and #30. The #30 is my favorite so far, toasty with a little spice and very smooth., I still can't figure out why it's a second.
 
I haven't had any Connie's in a long while. Some nice deals to be had. The #9s and #30s were solid. I think I did a group buy a long time ago so people could try 5ers of different bundles. I may have to go back and get a bundle for the cigar moochers.
 
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