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Construction issue?

chiefmd

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So I was smoking this prensado and this is the second one that did this to me. Is this a construction issue? I thought it was how I was lighting it but it did the same thing on the second one. I thought maybe my humidor but other cigars have been smoking fine. I have had prensado issues before. Maybe they're trying to crank these out too fast?

This is about after an inch into the cigar. First cigar had a tunnel straight through it like this.
 
Its possible you got some dry sticks, and the wrapper/binder are wetter than the filler after sitting in your humi a bit.
 
Its possible you got some dry sticks, and the wrapper/binder are wetter than the filler after sitting in your humi a bit.

This is what it looks like to me. It is possible, however, that out of the thousands they make that you did get a couple of duds. Esp. if that particular roller wasn't on their A game. If you have some more I'd say let them sit for about a month longer and then try again.


edit- clarification
 
I got one in a sample pack and started smoking it. It kept going out and running bad. This was my first and only one I have had. The flavors didn't suit my palate and I was tired of trying to smoke it so I gave up on it and dissected it. It had some short pieces in it but the main problem I saw was a thick stalk running the length of the cigar. May not be your problem, but I was surprised that a cigar with such high regard was put together like this.

Btw, mine appears to have burned the exact way your did.
 
Seems the only recourse is to let them sit a while and try again 6 months down the road. Or...

You could try taking a few out and dry boxing them for a day or two out of the cello....then put them in a singles drawer in your humidor and try smoking one 2/3 weeks later....that will give you an idea if it's a moisture issue or a construction issue. If it smokes better, moisture...if it smokes the same, construction. Then, just to me sure, take the other one and smoke it 2/3 later and check your results again.

Strange burn indeed...
 
As much as I love the Tempus, I always have burn issues with those things. Bad tunneling. Looks to me like the same problem I have.
 
As much as I love the Tempus, I always have burn issues with those things. Bad tunneling. Looks to me like the same problem I have.

OP is a Prensado. Do you really have burn issues with the tempus line? Each one I've had has been perfect so far. Of course that doesn't mean that no one else can have burn issues, just curious.
 
As much as I love the Tempus, I always have burn issues with those things. Bad tunneling. Looks to me like the same problem I have.

OP is a Prensado. Do you really have burn issues with the tempus line? Each one I've had has been perfect so far. Of course that doesn't mean that no one else can have burn issues, just curious.

I know, but it's of the Alec Bradley brand, as is the Tempus. I assume that the same factory makes both lines. Dunno. I thought maybe it was just the box I was buying from at my local at the time, but I've since had them from multiple B&M's and had nothing but trouble. I'd say three quarters of them have had bad tunneling issues.
 
I'm pretty sure they're both made at the Raices Cubanas factory.
 
As much as I love the Tempus, I always have burn issues with those things. Bad tunneling. Looks to me like the same problem I have.

OP is a Prensado. Do you really have burn issues with the tempus line? Each one I've had has been perfect so far. Of course that doesn't mean that no one else can have burn issues, just curious.

I haven't had tunneling issues per se, but the Tempus I smoked this past weekend had all sorts of burn issues. It burn unevenly and needed constant attention just to stay lit. I don't think it was an over humidification problem either because it had been in my humidor for six months at 65% RH.
 
The three or four Prensado's I've smoked had perfect construction, but frankly the flavor sucked, traded the rest for some Padilla 32's. The Tempus on the other hand had construction issues so bad I just quit smoking them. The Prensado for me was the biggest dissapointment of any cigar I've had so far this year. I had high hopes for the so called #1 cigar, but it fell way short for me anyway. JMHO

Lefty
 
I'll bet dollars to donuts it is construction. In my experience, I've run into that problem with every line I've smoked out of that factory. These are too danged expensive to put up with garbage like that.

I smoke several cigars a day. That means I have smoked more in a month than a lot of folks smoke in a year. A lot of experience with box after box, and this is a something that I have constantly run into with this manufacturer. I have had far too many rolled like drinking straws or underfilled. That is my experience.

Now, I love the blends and honestly think that they are some of the best on the planet, made with the best tobacco. So, I do buy them, and immediately open the box and inspect every cigar, inspecting the foot, and pinching them to see if they are underfilled. A pain in the butt, but a neccessity.

Dry them down a lot before smoking. It takes a minimum of 3 weeks just for a cigar to mechanically stabilize. Then you have to make sure that the cigar itself has consistent moisture content from filler to wrapper. That could take a month or more, depending on how you store. That tobacco loves being smoked at 60 RH. It will be a lot sweeter at that humidity. Make sure you cut them with as large an opening as possible. All the way to the outer diameter of the stick. No punches, etc. If they continue to to tunnel, just lightly pinch behind the ember as you draw. That will at least keep you from wasting a cigar.

Also, imo, in the absence of electronically controlled humidification, Humidipaks are superior for staying consistent, and allowing the cigar to take in moisture evenly. Unfortunately, they do not come at 60% RH. The 65s are good for long term aging. The 69% ones are too wet, and you can get mold. Beads are great if you are real careful on how you rehydrate them. (remember, everything has a plus or minus tolerance) Better to add too little water, and have to add more a few days later, than to overdo it.
 
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