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Can you get drunk on beer?

gregor22

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July 7, 1955: Can you get drunk on beer?
Posted on July 9th, 2008 – 7:50 PM
By Ben Welter
In a United Press story published in the Minneapolis Tribune, a Yale man who probably managed to avoid frat houses during his undergrad years demonstrates that you can be right about all the facts and still come to the wrong conclusion.

Can You Get Drunk on Beer?
‘No,’ Says Yale Professor; ‘Yes,’ Say Others

NEW YORK – (UP) – Yale university’s famed studies on alcoholism have produced a controversy over whether or not beer is an intoxicating beverage.

Dr. Leon A. Greenberg, Yale professor of physiology, said beer isn’t – and should be reclassified to the non-intoxicating drinks.

This brought emphatic objection from other scientists. They wanted to know if the man who is “high” or “tight” isn’t also drunk. Beer certainly makes people “high” and “tight,” they said.

Greenberg’s scientific theory went like this:

For people to show consistently the “abnormal behavior” which goes with intoxication, the alcohol content of their blood must be 0.15 per cent or higher.

THE AVERAGE alcohol content of American beers is 3.7 per cent by weight. In order for the alcohol blood level to be at 0.15 per cent, there would have to be two and one-half quarts of 3.7 beer in the stomach. But the capacity of the human stomach is one and one-half to two quarts.

Therefore, no one can drink enough beer at one time to get intoxicated, according to theory. As for doing it by degrees: beer is destroyed or eliminated in the body at the rate of one-third of a quart an hour. So three quarts would have to be consumed in two or three hours, and this, he said, was “physiologically unnatural.”

“THE ALCOHOLIC must not drink beer. He must not drink beer, not because it is intoxicating but because, like a small amount of alcohol in any other form, it may facilitate the uncontrolled drinking for which the alcoholic has a special liability.”

His vews were published in the official journal of the Yale studies. Other scientists were invited to publish their objections at the same time. And these objections were mainly that Greenberg did not recognize stages or degrees of drunkenness – the differences between a man who is a little drunk and one who is very drunk.

Dr. Albion Roy King, professor of philosophy, Cornell college, Mount Vernon, Iowa, said Greenberg has performed a “feat of word manufacture and manipulation which simply makes more graphic what everybody knows, that it takes more drinking to get tight on beer than on whisky.”

Dr. Harry M. Tiebout, a psychiatrist and vice chairman of the Connecticut commission on alcoholism, said Greenberg’s view is “simple nonsense – in the eyes of most beer drinkers.”

“THEY MAY KNOW nothing about their blood level or the percentage alcohol content of the beer drink, and they care less.

“What they do know is that they get drunk on beer, using their definition. Alcohol is alcohol, in any concentration and its regular use can lead to trouble.”

Dr. Frank J. O’Brien, associate superintendent of schools, New York city, objected to the generalizing on the grounds that alcohol affects different people differently.
 
Obviously, this study must mean the guys at my golf course have larger capacity stomachs! :p Perhaps he should study them!!
 
Bullshit.... I can get ripped on beer. Call it what you want, but I call it drunk.. :rolleyes:
 
A 30 pack of Keystone Light and I can get way past black out drunk. It takes a while, but it's more than doable.
 
A 30 pack of Keystone Light and I can get way past black out drunk. It takes a while, but it's more than doable.

Keystone light ??, why don't you just get a case of Odules and call it a night? :laugh:
 
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For people to show consistently the "abnormal behavior" which goes with intoxication, the alcohol content of their blood must be 0.15 per cent or higher.
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That's interesting given the legal limit defining intoxication in most states is now .08 per cent.


I've gotten drunk while drinking beer many times. It takes awhile and the frequent trips to "pay the rent" are kind of annoying, but I've been drunk (REALLY drunk a time or two) from drinking beer.
 
A 30 pack of Keystone Light and I can get way past black out drunk. It takes a while, but it's more than doable.

Keystone light ??, why don't you just get a case of Odules and call it a night? :laugh:

Well in order to comply with the idea of the article, I had to mention a beer that I had experience with at 3.7% ABV or less. I think Keystone light is 3.2%, give or take a bit.
 
I can honestly say, that I've never got drunk on beer. Beer and shots, that's another story.

Doc.
 
Apparently these profs have never hammered a World Wide Stout.
 
I'm living proof that you can get beyond drunk off of beer. Throw in whiskey or tequila and you need to invent a whole new word for that level of intoxication.
 
For people to show consistently the “abnormal behavior” which goes with intoxication, the alcohol content of their blood must be 0.15 per cent or higher.

And how does one define "abnormal behavior" nowadays?

If vomiting from a moving vehicle in below 0 temperatures warrants "abnormal behavior," then yeah, I've been drunk on beer. Thanks for wasting our time and money Professor.
 
Can't get drunk on beer?? PSSSHHHHH, tell that to all the other college students, because this one takes some trips occasionally. :laugh:
 
That guy should come to my cabin and provide all the non-intoxicating beer :thumbs:
 
July 7, 1955: Can you get drunk on beer?

Is this the date of the original article?

I wonder how naive we will look fifty years from now.

There are thousands of years' empirical evidence that beer does in fact get people drunk. There are now, and there were in 1955. There is even some in my own life. What a joke. (The study, that is.)

Also, consuming 3 quarts of beer (96 ounces, or 8 12 oz beers) in three hours is by no means impossible. And finally, I honestly can't think of the last time I drank a beer with 3.7% or lower ABV.
 
If your not getting drunk, your drinking the wrong damn beer! :sign:
 
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