For some reason I have a pretty good collection of Gurkhas, close to 50 different ones. I was keeping up with their releases for a while but it just became too much. That said I have at least a dozen that look like your second one but if it is fairly recent there is a good chance it is a Regent, Legends have a Gold band. The first one looks like a a Sultan but they usually have a band that says Sultan on them. Could be a Classic though.