Ahh, temperature!

[sippinsoma]

Hey guys, I'm new here and I thought I'd join!

I was wondering if anyone knows of a small unit that can fit inside of a humidor to regulate temperature? I have the Antietam cabinet humidor (http://www.bargainhumidors.com/bh/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=HUM-BH3) so I have a good amount of space for such a thing. (By the way, the cabinet is fantastic, I think am going to write a review of it with photos for everyone.)

I have looked around on the internet and I really see nothing at all that can regulate both heat and cold. Am I asking too much? I usually don't have any problems with temperature, but about once-a-week if some friends and I decide to watch a few movies on my home theater, it heats up the entire room (the same room my humidor is in). The amps from the receiver and sub + the TV and DVD player being on really raised the temperature in the room.

Another question I have is, in what instance do tobacco beetles hatch? I mean, say if the humidor jumps to 78F one day, could that itself do it? Or would it take at least a few days of warm temperature to have problems? Also, does anyone have any good links to photos of tobacco beetle damage so I can be aware to check my cigars now and then? If my OpusX and Legends and Odysseys and Liberty Series (haha, etc.) get damaged, I won't be happy!

Thanks guys!

 

[Wurm]

The saddest / scariest picture I have seen since joining CP

And yes the temp hitting 78% just once could be enough, so why take the chance... time to AC the room when the entertainment center is fired up or to move the humidor.

 

[Wurm]

Oh and welcome! Be sure to post a short intro in the "Introduce Yourself Here" forum.

 

[sippinsoma]

Thanks wurm

What about the early signs? I heard seeing rings on the top of the cigar? Feeling soft spots in the cigars? Also, how long after the beetles get to work will that happen?

Sorry, I'm just freaked about losing my investment!

 

[Wurm]

Thanks wurm

What about the early signs? I heard seeing rings on the top of the cigar? Feeling soft spots in the cigars? Also, how long after the beetles get to work will that happen?

Sorry, I'm just freaked about losing my investment!

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Some of the best info I've read regarding Beetles is in this thread...

http://www.cigarpass.com/forumsipb/index.php?showtopic=15649

be sure to read the post by Gael on page 3.

And lol beetles freak all of us BOTL out.

 

[sippinsoma]

Great great, thanks again wurm!

 

[SeanGAR]

Cooling is basically heat exchanging, so there is nothing I know of that you can put completely inside your unit to provide cooling. 78F is too high as others note. I'd move your humidor to a cooler part of your place and leave it there. Either that or put the AC on when you're planning to run your AV goodies. You can ostensibly freeze your stash and prevent beetles .... but I'd still be somewhat nervous even doing that.

Beetle eggs hatch and the larva start eating your ciga(s). Their poop can sometimes be seen by tapping the cigar and watching tiny flecks drop out. The larva pupates and a beetle emerges. The beetle will eat its way out of the cigar and look for a party. If you only have one the damage will be limited. If Mr. beetles finds a Mrs., you're in for trouble. Soft spots in the cigar are no indication of beetles.

 

[sippinsoma]

Thanks seangar.

78F is definately way too high, but sometimes it can get up to 75F, should I be moving it for sure? Or is 75F now and then alright? It's usually at 65-67% and 69-71F.

 

[sippinsoma]

Hmm, another question. Can tobacco beetles get through cellophane? I mean, if all of the cigars are boxed and in their wrappers, if one is effected, why would it effect the rest?

 

[SeanGAR]

Thanks seangar.

78F is definately way too high, but sometimes it can get up to 75F, should I be moving it for sure?  Or is 75F now and then alright?  It's usually at 65-67% and 69-71F.

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Every degree above 70 increases the risk of hatching. If you can get 69-71 in another part of your place thats where the door should go. I've found holes in the odd cigar and my boxes for long term get frozen as I have access to a commercial freezer. I keep those in a separate cooler than sticks for current smoking. I also keep them around 70/70 so I'm hoping I never have a problem. There is no guarantee I suppose.

Many manufacturers supposedly freeze .... but fake Cubans are notorious for being buggy so be extra careful with any "Cuban" sticks that come in trades/bombs unless you are 100% certain the sender is getting the real thing. You might consider a table-top door for those sticks just in case.

Yes, they eat through cellophane no problem.

 

[chino]

I was worried about beetles living here in Phoenix with the summer. I bought a cabinet from aristocrat humidors that controls both humidity and temp. It cost a couple grand but it was worth it. While phoenix was having 115 degree days my cabinet stayed at 70 dgrees/65rh. It's awesome.

 

[sippinsoma]

If only I had the money!

 

[Wurm]

If only I had the money!

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Moving the humi to a better location... doesn't cost a thing ;-)

 

[marcsheldon]

I was wondering if anyone knows of a small unit that can fit inside of a humidor to regulate temperature?

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my humi is on an outside wall (and i live in TX) so it gets a little warm from time to time. ive searced the ends of the earth for what your looking for with no luck. i tried putting a little fan in there, but it doesnt seem to do much. i even thought about sticking ice cubes in my humidifier.

im just glad to see the fall here.

 

[sippinsoma]

I was wondering if anyone knows of a small unit that can fit inside of a humidor to regulate temperature?

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my humi is on an outside wall (and i live in TX) so it gets a little warm from time to time. ive searced the ends of the earth for what your looking for with no luck. i tried putting a little fan in there, but it doesnt seem to do much. i even thought about sticking ice cubes in my humidifier.

im just glad to see the fall here.

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That's sad to hear, I've also searched!

I thought of one idea, albeit highly unconventional. I use the cigar oasis system to humidify my cigars, with a bunch of the larger diamond crown units to keep regularity (or in the unlikely even that my oasis runs out of batteries without my knowing it). If you're familiar with the cigar oasis system, it is basically a cartridge that snaps on underneath a fan-powered unit. The fan simply pulls the moisture out of the cartridge. I thought about buying a few cartridges and freezing them to replace them daily (and just refilling the units instead of buying more). That would create a perfect air conditioner, but I don't think they would stay frozen for any more than 2 hours, and there would be no way of controlling the temperature.

Oh well -- it was an idea, right? :laugh:

 

[mrjinglesusa]

First I have heard of an Oasis running on batteries. The two I have (Plus and II) run off AC power. ???

 

[sippinsoma]

First I have heard of an Oasis running on batteries. The two I have (Plus and II) run off AC power. ???

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The unit takes both. Either the ribbon AC cord or the 6-AA battery pack that plugs in where the old ribbon AC cord usually goes.

 

[mrjinglesusa]

First I have heard of an Oasis running on batteries. The two I have (Plus and II) run off AC power. ???

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The unit takes both. Either the ribbon AC cord or the 6-AA battery pack that plugs in where the old ribbon AC cord usually goes.

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Ahhh. Didn't know there was a battery pack available. Learn something new every day.