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Question on storing cigars in cooler temperatures

JCinPA said:
There is quite a bit of information on the Internet regarding changing if RH with temperature, actually, now that I’ve gone down this rabbit hole. Since I preferred 65% to begin with at 70F, I’ll stop at 75% at 60F, some of those chart numbers seem way too high.

I also think it’s better to err on the slightly less RH than slightly more RH side of the equation. I’m very confident 60-62F at 75% RH will be just fine. Maybe not necessary, but just fine. I’ll certainly report back in several months if I’m wrong, I’ve never been shy about admitting I’m wrong.

But the conversation here sounds very much like IT’S SETTLED SCIENCE! type ‘discussions’. I think it’s run its course. Thanks for the replies.
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I genuinely do look forward to your results over time. Hope it all works out for you and get the desired result you're looking for.
 
Back in 2009 we traveled to Ybor city and I visited the Fuente warehouse. Thanks to their kindness I was given the grand tour which included a trip to their sub-sub basement where they store the cigars. That area was kept at 53°. No, I do not know what the RH was, but the temp was as stated. As several have stated and shared their knowledge, you control you destiny in whatever direction you choose. After all, you will be tHe one smoking them. Enjoy the adventure.
 
Well ... I hate doing this, but it happens from time to time.

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Apparently relative is more important than the volume of water in cigar storage. I kept researching and found an article from JR cigar that helped me understand nothing bad would happen to my cigars stored at 60-62F, but keep the RH the same. That chart suggesting higher RH at lower temperatures has gone viral all over the Internet, and understanding RH very well from a strictly scientific point of view, it made sense to me.

However, cigars, it seems, like the 65-70% RH at all temperatures. I was wrong, you guys were right. My recitation of the science regarding RH was 100% correct. However, applying it to cigar storage was 100% wrong, apparently.
 
I used to get them straight from the wineador in the basement and smoke them. Someone mentioned here letting cigars "calm down". I brought up an old desktop humidor from downstairs and seasoned it. I will move some sticks from the basement to the humidor on ground level a couple weeks before smoking and keep that humidor mostly full. The wineador downstairs is great for long-term storage, in fact I think the stability of the basement is probably ideal, and as has been mentioned storing them closer to 60F will do them no harm.
 
JCinPA said:
Well ... I hate doing this, but it happens from time to time.

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Apparently relative is more important than the volume of water in cigar storage. I kept researching and found an article from JR cigar that helped me understand nothing bad would happen to my cigars stored at 60-62F, but keep the RH the same. That chart suggesting higher RH at lower temperatures has gone viral all over the Internet, and understanding RH very well from a strictly scientific point of view, it made sense to me.

However, cigars, it seems, like the 65-70% RH at all temperatures. I was wrong, you guys were right. My recitation of the science regarding RH was 100% correct. However, applying it to cigar storage was 100% wrong, apparently.
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The internet is loaded with stuff, some of it is even good! Keep looking and maybe you will find an article that explains how to apologize to Tom @BlindedByScience :cool:
 
This post was an apology, it’s why I posted it, I’m not going to name everyone I. The post. Now you’re just being petty.
 
JCinPA said:
This post was an apology, it’s why I posted it, I’m not going to name everyone I. The post. Now you’re just being petty.
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You were an ass to everyone in general, you were very specifically an ass toward Tom, insulting him directly.

Just a suggestion, you handle it your way.
 
Takes a special kind of arrogance to watch a YouTube video, then show up on a forum with folks that have been at the task for decades, and tell them how stupid and wrong they all are. Ignoring the opportunity to learn from folks that have been doing it for a very long time. All while being wrong. Tells much.
 
Let me say this with complete sincerity, you won’t find a more knowledgeable group of cigar enthusiasts than here at CigarPass. While many cigar smokers simply enjoy their sticks without much thought, the members here take pride in the art and craft of cigar care, ensuring the highest quality in storage and aging.

Your initial interaction here leaves a lot to be desired. The depth of expertise in this community is unmatched, and I highly recommend approaching it with the respect it deserves. If you don’t, you will truly be missing out on something special...

Good luck with your storage, and hopefully you choose to participate in a more respectful manner going forward.
 
CBoukal said:
"I'm sure CigarStone is very pretty."

Dammit, we are going to hear about this from Jeff @CigarStone FOREVER!!!
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While "pretty" maybe an endearing term to you, I prefer strikingly handsome, stunningly brilliant, swarthy, debonair, cunning, Suave; but what do I get?

Pretty?

If I had feelings, you can bet your ass they would be hurt!
 
Late to the party, but I will say I bought cigars from Atlantic years ago, and they arrived moldy, as well as over humidified. They went with the "It's plume" claim when they were a box of Tatuaje Conoju less than four months old according to the box date. I've never bought from them since. That article just by them proves how much bad information is out there.

Big difference between a steel gun barrel and an organic compound like tobacco leaves that absorb moisture. I ruined cigars back in the day doing long term storage at 62% back in the day and would never make that mistake again. 75% would be crazy. Besides mold, I've also witnessed what over humidity can do, causing the leaves to swell, expanding and splitting the feet of cigars. Draw issues to boot! I always prefer 65% - 68% as my sweet spot. Temps around 66% - 68°

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I sure learned a lot in this thread. After calibrating the hygrometers and rotating cigars, the basement wineador has settled down at 69%RH @61F, which is fine for my aging storage. It’s been amazingly stable over the years.

The intermediate humidor in the living room now has stabilized after pressing it back into service and running at 65% with Boveda packs. I have a small humidor on order and some 62% Bovedas to set up the dry box. I'm feeling much better about my modest stash, now.
 
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